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Do you think Harry and Snape's relationship will change?

Yes for the better
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45%
Yes but for the worse
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No I think their relationship will remain the same
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Total votes : 20

Postby Groo » Wednesday 21 July 2004 2:49:39pm

umm.... i dont think that is the case. It was Snape who started the relationship between him and harry. also,I dont see him caring at all whether James and co thought he had reformed or not. so i dont think he would be frustrated by them not believing he has turned good.

i think what is going to happen is Snape saving Harry's life from Voldemort and dying in the process, which will make harry respect snape. no reasoning... just a hunch

P.S i would love to see him call him "Proffesor Snape" for a change :grin:
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Postby carsten » Wednesday 21 July 2004 3:14:59pm

Groo wrote:P.S i would love to see him call him "Proffesor Snape" for a change :grin:

Maybe Snape could call him "Harry" instead of "Potter" for a change. That is the highest sign of respect between the two I can imagine.
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Postby Reverie Revenge » Wednesday 21 July 2004 5:04:26pm

D.A. Member wrote: In the next book I think that DD will be giving Harry the Occulmancy Lessons. We've seen Snape's worst memory, now maybe we'll see a few bad memories of DD or stuff DD doesn't want Harry to know :)


This is a bit offtopic but me too, I'd love to know DD's worse memories. I'm pretty sure he's got some dark secrets! And it'd also be interesting to see DD's Boggart, and his Patronus.

Not off topic: Snape feels too much resentment to forgive Harry anything, so even if Harry tried he couldn't change their relationship to better. It can't get worse anyway. But if JKR said sth. will happen, it's probably another crash between them, maybe more intense :???: Maybe it'll have to do sth. with blaming Snape for Sirius' death (I think he's dead , JKR isn't joking about such themes).
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Postby Athena Appleton » Wednesday 21 July 2004 5:51:08pm

Marcus Baker wrote:True, howevere we really dont know the primary reason why Snape is not on voldemorts side anymore, even though he was a Death Eater. I mean, consequences could be deadly if you betray Voldemort, so he has to have quite a good reason to leave him. Anyways, Id say if he did return, he would be instantly killed for not showing loyalty. I dont think he really can go back to Voldemorts side, even if he he shows strong animosity towards Harry.


I have a theory...

After James saved Snape's life when they were students at Hogwarts, Snape was grudgingly indebted to James. Snape heard that Voldemort was after the Potters, and he's the informant who told Dumbledore that the Potters were in danger. However, it didn't work (James and Lily still died), so in Harry's first year, he saved Harry's life, thus fulfilling his debt to James.

Reverie wrote: And it'd also be interesting to see DD's Boggart, and his Patronus.


Bet it's a phoenix... assuming, of course, that phoenixes can be Patronuses.

Thing is, they're both incredibly stubborn people. Also, I really don't think it's something that has to be "resolved" by the end of the books, seeing as in real life, such things are not resolved in a nice, neat way. At most, a series of events would make Harry and Snape be able to be in the same room together (future fights, Snape does something to save Harry or vice versa, etc.) but there will always, in my opinion, be a lot of tension in the air.
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Postby Phinea Rogue » Thursday 22 July 2004 7:46:51pm

Athena Appleton wrote:Thing is, they're both incredibly stubborn people. Also, I really don't think it's something that has to be "resolved" by the end of the books, seeing as in real life, such things are not resolved in a nice, neat way. At most, a series of events would make Harry and Snape be able to be in the same room together (future fights, Snape does something to save Harry or vice versa, etc.) but there will always, in my opinion, be a lot of tension in the air.


Exactly, I've been thinking the same. There's just too much tension between them to be settled for ever and all. I see them being able to stay in the same room without killing each other, but that would be worse. Besides, I don't really like the idea of Snape getting friendly with Harry, I like him as that nasty git he is. :grin: A more "civil relationship" would be perfectly enough.
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Postby Deedra Malfoy » Thursday 22 July 2004 7:50:36pm

hmm...

Man, I hate agreeing with everyone, I just don't get here fast enough to post my beliefs before everyone else does. :cry:
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Postby *Lily* » Thursday 22 July 2004 10:15:54pm

I know the feeling Deedra and this was MY topic! anyway I like the idea of snape saving Harry and then they respect each other. I wasn't asking for gumdrops and lollipops when I started this I only wanted a more civil relationship which I think will happen in the end. I don't think Snape will give Harry a hug when he gets on the Hogwarts express for the last time (assuming he does) maybe just a good bye?

You guys want to see DD worst memories and such... I would just like to see some more of the immense power he has.
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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Friday 23 July 2004 1:54:05am

*Lily* wrote:You guys want to see DD worst memories and such... I would just like to see some more of the immense power he has.
Yeah, same here. In OoTP, Harry talks about how DD's face was scary when he was getting the DE's. But with the upcoming war, I bet we will see DD in all his power.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Friday 23 July 2004 3:59:04pm

Lily wrote:I like the idea of snape saving Harry and then they respect each other.


But Snape's already saved Harry's life... Fat lot of good it did.

After Snape saved Harry in P/SS from falling off his out-of-control broom, Harry certainly didn't respect him. He wasn't even appreciative.
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Postby Deedra Malfoy » Friday 23 July 2004 5:27:22pm

True, but how many teenagers (besides me :lol: ) are thankful after something like that? Just brush it off and go on...
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Postby *Lily* » Saturday 24 July 2004 12:26:47am

He was only saving him because he was in debt to him.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Saturday 24 July 2004 1:37:09am

So? He still saved him, and Harry was a little bit of a brat about it. Just because Snape had this debt to Harry's dad didn't mean that it wasn't noble that Snape saved him. Since Snape saved Harry once and it did nothing to help their relationship, I don't think a second saving would make them buddies, or really change anything at all, either.
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Postby Gower » Saturday 24 July 2004 10:57:46am

Harry looked at Snape at the end of year feast and realised that Snape's feelings towards him hadn't changed one jot. Maybe until he realised this, he intended to say something. But I wouldn't bet on it :grin:
Anyway lets face it; there relationship is beyond repair :grin:
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Postby carsten » Saturday 24 July 2004 11:10:55am

Gower wrote:...Anyway lets face it; there relationship is beyond repair :grin:

That's the challenge for JKR: She needs these huge stumbling blocks to push the story forward. Something really spectecular must happen to change their relationsship, including one of them (or both?) passing away. Since it is a children's story about good and evil after all, chances are that Snape won't make it. So there is more to this relation. The story grows...
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Postby Deedra Malfoy » Saturday 24 July 2004 6:45:58pm

Yes. And I hope that if Snape doesn't live to the end, Harry feels like absolute cr*p! :mad:
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