The Lost Prophecy

[Athena Appleton]

DM if you and I read the same thing, all Rowling said is that she's not doing an exact retelling of mythology and that Remus doesn't have a twin brother. Hardly something for you to go around squishying threads around here. It's a theories board. Let us theorize.

Ferrus: ooooooooooo....

I must ponder...

Voldemort did technically mark Ginny his equal when he had her do his bidding for him in Chamber of Secrets. However, there are a few times when Harry is around the Weasleys very close to his birthday, and it's never mentioned that Ginny just had a birthday, so I don't know.

I still think it's Harry, though... Or Neville... (don't ask, still don't feel like getting a shootdown)

[imc130d]

As interesting as the Ginny idea is, I should point out that the following:

AND THE DARK LORD WILL MARK HIM AS HIS EQUAL

indicates that whoever it is that has the power is male. If it was Ginny, Trelawney would have said "WILL MARK HER".

[Emma'I'm a real witch']

Not necessarily, I mean when you talk about ships they are always referred to as 'she' and so on (Can't think of anymore examples, but you know what I mean). I think it would of been a bit difficult for Trelawney to prophesise (sp?) saying 'he/she' all the time.

[highsorcerer]

I would point out that the Weasley's weren't apparently involved during the first war.

[Athena Appleton]

Oh, okay, yeah... that makes sense. Nevermind about the Ginny thing.

It was a cool idea, though!

[Ferrus]

Good point imc130d, after I wrote my last message I was wondering wether Trelawney had used a gender. Well, thats seems to eliminate Ginny, so the only other "candidate" is Neville, although I don´t really see how to get the "he will mark him as his equal" bit... Hmmm.

[Evil Wizard Petting Zoo]

I can't really buy into Neville being the one to vanquish LV. Dumbledore says its going to be Harry and what about the Harry-Voldemort emotional connection, ex: dreams, strong emotions.

This is just something I noticed in PoA and I didn't know where to post it...In the chapter where Sirius breaks into Gryffindor Common room and slashes Ron's curtains, Harry has a dream. The dream is that Harry is in a forest (the Forbidden Forrest probably) and he is chasing something silvery white and he only catches glimpses of it, and as Harry speeds up to catch it, the silvery white thing speeds up. Anyways, I was thinking that this dream was actually LV running after a unicorn to get its blood. In GoF, the potion used to restore LV to his body contains unicorn blood. Now I'm not saying LV himself was running loose in the Forbidden Forest because he doesn't have a body yet and he's suppost to be far away. I just think Voldemort was dreaming about getting his hands on a unicorn for the potion and this may be one of the first of the Harry-Voldemort dream connections.

[pallas artemis]

This is just a random thought,

could the dark lord have marked neville, and that is the reason for his obvious memory problems

[Evil Wizard Petting Zoo]

I always wondered why Neville was so dumb. Someone on here was saying how they thought he got a memory charm. I think that's pretty likely. Maybe Neville actually witnessed his parents being tortured as a baby, so whoever arrived on the scene maybe thought it was best if Neville didn't remember bits and pieces of that as he grew older, but whoever put the charm on Neville got a little overenthusiastic.

[Groo]

McGonagall says to Neville sometime that there is nothing wrong with him except a lack of confidence. question is , why does he have a lack of confidence? something to do with the apathy of watching his parents insane?

[Ferrus]

In my opinion, the fact that Neville lives with his grandmother isn´t helping him much. She has an excesively strong character, and I think that that helps downplay Neville´s confidence.

[Alice I]

I have to agree with Ferrus.
Neville's Gan may love him very much but her overbearing personality is too much for him to go up against.
Every book he becomes stronger and more confident.
I think that out side of normal character development that might be because when he is at Hogwarts he is away from her and thinking and acting for himself.
In OOTP look at the difference in his demeanor when he is at Hogwarts and working with the DA and when the trio run into him at St. Mungos.
That is the first time I got a really bad taste for Neville's Gran.
I thought that the way she spoke to Neville in front of his friends and the way she dismissed his mother's (albiet insane) attempts to communicate with her son to be extreamly off putting.

[Dumbledores Master]

AT THE HANDS OF THE OTHER
as in (possibly) another person because I think if she was talking exclusively about harry and LV or the dark lord in her prediction she would have named *the other* by name. She would have said THE DARK LORD or HARRY. Isn`t the whole point of prediction to see the exact future? The only flaw is me defeating myself a little bit by saying prediction is exact and she would have named the other (this could just b JK being cruel) I basically think one will be destroyed by Neville and it is most likely that Neville sacrifices himself to destroy LV because a good over evil ending would be a bit too cheesy for JK, so the happiness thing will be beaten down by Nevilles death. Oh and the marking thing could be the mental scarring of his parets insania.

[Athena Appleton]

EWPZ: the deal with the dream, I think, has to do with Harry's growing desire to know his father, and possibly a premonition of what is to come at the end of PoA.

Think about it.

Harry's (silver) Patronus is a stag. Harry's dad was an animagus stag. In a weird way, when Harry sees his Patronus, he's seeing his dad, or the spirit of his dad. So if Harry is chasing something silver through the forest, I think he's subconciously trying to see a glimpse of his father, something he had wanted in previous books, and finally gets in PoA.

[Evil Wizard Petting Zoo]

Yeah, that makes sense too.