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Postby Athena Appleton » Tuesday 27 April 2004 3:20:56am

yeah, what she said. :grin:

I'm sorry if Malfoy did get placed in Gryffindor, the rest of the team would never vote him CAPTAIN they all hate him too much.


well, we don't really know how team captains are chosen, now, do we? Harry didn't vote for Angelina to become team captain, so I think it's fairly obvious that's not how it's done. McGonagall could be the one to make a choice, I don't know... but I think it's unlikely that someone with less experience would be captain if there's a more experienced player on the team. If I'm right about Malfoy going over to Gryffindor (Rowling did say that someone would change houses) and Ron having to fight to keep his spot on the house team (in a recent chat, she made it sound as though Ron will have a hard time getting to play quidditch) and Harry not playing quidditch anymore (I know he loves it, but he hasn't played for two years, I think his quidditch days are coming to an end) then it's quite possible that Malfoy, with his seniority on the quidditch field, would take over as team captain.
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Postby Ferrus » Tuesday 27 April 2004 8:55:47pm

it's quite possible that Malfoy, with his seniority on the quidditch field, would take over as team captain


Its true that Malfoy will possibly be the most senior quidditch player in gryffindor (IF he changes houses, which I still doubt), but he isn´t exactly the most dedicated player there will be. After all, Malfoy (unless he is somehow reformed by the gryffindors positive influence) will still want Slytherin to win the Cup, so I think that McGonagall (or whoever chooses who the captain is) will take this into account.
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Postby Nobby » Tuesday 27 April 2004 10:18:15pm

yeah but if Malfoy gets captaincy of course Mcgonagall will be keeping tabs on him and wil probably be having frequent chats with Master Malfoy
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Postby Athena Appleton » Wednesday 28 April 2004 2:07:03am

or unless, as i think is a possibility, Slytherin as a house is no more
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Postby Aberforth » Wednesday 28 April 2004 9:12:53am

Athena Appleton wrote:or unless, as i think is a possibility, Slytherin as a house is no more


But that would mean all Slytherins switching houses. I thought that JKR had said "someone" will switch. Seems a little unfair to tarnish all Slytherins with the same brush. I'm sure there have been many fine wizards to come out of Slytherin, but we don't hear much about them - only the bad ones.

However, the sorting hat said that the houses should unite, stand together. Maybe this is a hint at some future reorganisation. It just seems a little drastic to me to change the way Hogwarts has run after over 1000 years.
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Postby pallas artemis » Wednesday 28 April 2004 8:51:26pm

It just seems a little drastic to me to change the way Hogwarts has run after over 1000 years.


I couldn't agree more. As much as I dislike Slytherin in general, the schools been in trouble before and not exiled or cut out a house so why would they now. :( I think that the "someone" changing houses is more likely to be someone electing to leave Slytherin because they're a good guy and don't want the negative influence.Maybe :oops:
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Postby imc130d » Wednesday 28 April 2004 11:27:08pm

Sextuple post... As far as I know, that's a new record... :D
//Edited by Jotomicron: I've already killed the five extra posts...


But the real point of this post is:

Athena Appleton wrote:Rowling did say that someone would change houses


I've been looking for the exact quote concerning this matter (and a couple of others, which I'll mention in the appropriate threads), and I haven't been able to find any evidence that she actually said this, other than that it's appeared on multiple HP-related sites. Can anyone provide a transcript from an interview where JKR actually said this?
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Postby Athena Appleton » Sunday 2 May 2004 9:48:59pm

:lol: well, if you take a look through all the posts regarding this theory, I have said that I'll withdraw the theory if she didn't really say that. :grin:

About how things have been bad before and the school hasn't done any changing...

well, sometimes a change is needed, even when it hasn't happened before. It's hard on everybody when changes are made when traditions have been around for a long, long time. But just because it's hard to change doesn't mean it shouldn't happen.

Voldemort was the most powerful evil wizard in a very long time. He was really bad before. Things are about to get worse than they did even at the height of his power before. If ever there was a time for change, it's now.

But, since I haven't seen the proof of that quote myself, I am willing to admit that if it's not a true quote, the theory makes no sense and therefore isn't a real theory.

IF Rowling did say that, then I start thinking, who would change, and why? Under what circumstances would someone change houses after they've bonded under this family. We know of no one so far who seems to be unhappy in their house. Some people have said that Luna would go over to Gryffindor. Yeah, right. Luna is proud to be in Ravenclaw. Some folks say that Ron will turn bad and go over to Slytherin. Yeah... not happenin. Some folks say that Hermione will go over to Ravenclaw because she's smart and the Sorting Hat almost put her in Ravenclaw instead of Gryffindor. Well, she's smart, but she's proved her bravery time and time again, and she loves being in Gryffindor.

So something would have to happen. Something would have to change. I think thinking along the lines of disbanding all or part of Slytherin makes sense assuming someone is really changing.
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Postby Dumbledores Master » Monday 3 May 2004 6:50:42pm

In the DA there are 28 people so it stands to JKR reason that there will be 28 in the society (if she was influenced by Tolkien *was she?* then there would be) or around that number. So the question is who would be trusted enough to get in? (sorry for disturbing a conversation) :oops:
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Postby Reverie Revenge » Monday 3 May 2004 7:44:18pm

Aberforth wrote:
Athena Appleton wrote:or unless, as i think is a possibility, Slytherin as a house is no more


But that would mean all Slytherins switching houses. I thought that JKR had said "someone" will switch. Seems a little unfair to tarnish all Slytherins with the same brush. I'm sure there have been many fine wizards to come out of Slytherin, but we don't hear much about them - only the bad ones.

However, the sorting hat said that the houses should unite, stand together. Maybe this is a hint at some future reorganisation. It just seems a little drastic to me to change the way Hogwarts has run after over 1000 years.


I agree, Hogwarts tradition isn't going to break, Dumbledore said they have to be strong within it. Redefining, restructuring Hogwarts would mean inner instabilities :( That's the very last thing Dumbledore wants to have during the war.
Slytherin will stay a house. The Sorting hat's song tells us that after Slytherin had left, nothing was the same. And if his house goes to hell, it would never be the same too :mad: No, all four have to stay, because if they disbanded Slytherin Hogwarts would be complete no more!!!
It's morelikely they will have to stand together despite quidditch :roll: and the house cup :roll: . But of course, if they are 2 clubs, Junior DE and the DA, they will continue to have secret fights :-?
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Postby Reverie Revenge » Monday 3 May 2004 7:47:15pm

Aberforth wrote:
Athena Appleton wrote:or unless, as i think is a possibility, Slytherin as a house is no more


But that would mean all Slytherins switching houses. I thought that JKR had said "someone" will switch. Seems a little unfair to tarnish all Slytherins with the same brush. I'm sure there have been many fine wizards to come out of Slytherin, but we don't hear much about them - only the bad ones.

However, the sorting hat said that the houses should unite, stand together. Maybe this is a hint at some future reorganisation. It just seems a little drastic to me to change the way Hogwarts has run after over 1000 years.


I agree, Hogwarts tradition isn't going to break, Dumbledore said they have to be strong within it. Redefining, restructuring Hogwarts would mean inner instabilities :( That's the very last thing Dumbledore wants to have during the war.
Slytherin will stay a house. The Sorting hat's song tells us that after Slytherin had left, nothing was the same. And if his house goes to hell, it would never be the same too :mad: No, all four have to stay, because if they disbanded Slytherin Hogwarts would be complete no more!!!
It's morelikely they will have to stand together despite quidditch :roll: and the house cup :roll: . But of course, if they are 2 clubs, Junior DE and the DA, they will continue to have secret fights :-?
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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Tuesday 4 May 2004 1:55:29am

I agree with that Reverie. Hogwarts needs all 4 pillars in order to stand. Even if Slytherin is gone, Hogwarts will fall and will have already lost the war.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Tuesday 4 May 2004 2:46:42am

ahhh... you could be right... if it were me, I'd disband Slytherin if I knew that the majority of them were plotting against the other three houses. But no one asked my opinion on how Hogwarts ought to be run. *shrugs* their loss. :lol:

i still think, though, that if Slytherin does make its own society, with the purpose of fighting for Voldemort against the DA and other good guys, then the leaders, presumably Malfoy, with Crabbe and Goyle and probably Nott, will be separated.
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Postby Alice I » Thursday 6 May 2004 5:28:44am

Dumbledores Master wrote:In the DA there are 28 people so it stands to JKR reason that there will be 28 in the society (if she was influenced by Tolkien *was she?* then there would be) or around that number. So the question is who would be trusted enough to get in?{/quote]
Well she would take folks from more than just Harry's year as is the case with the DA so it could be anyone as we don't really know about too many other slytherins.

Dumbledores Master wrote: (sorry for disturbing a conversation) :oops:


You are not disturbing a conversation. That is what these threads are for, to put down your opinion and join the conversation :grin:
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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Friday 7 May 2004 2:44:27am

Just a thought: I wonder if the Lestranges have kids, and if so, are they at Hogwarts. Those would be some evil chillins!! :evil: :evil:
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