Trelawny's Low-Key Prediction

[Athena Appleton]

oh yeah, i know... i just think it would be weird to have it through uncle vernon's eyes, harry's eyes for seven books, then end with, like, Hermione's point of view or somethin...

[Jotomicron]

well, actually there is another chapter told not throw Harry's eyes... the first in the GoF! It's told by a distant narrator (don't know the literary term...) and then, close to the end of that chapter, throw Bryce's point of view.

But changing the point of view DURING the plot it's just strange, not anything like JKR wouldn't do but it just don't seem her type of thing.

[Alice I]

well, actually there is another chapter told not throw Harry's eyes... the first in the GoF! It's told by a distant narrator (don't know the literary term...) and then, close to the end of that chapter, throw Bryce's point of view.

Are you sure about that Joto? Isn't all of that actually seen through Harry's eyes becasue it tured out that he dreamed the whole thing?

[Athena Appleton]

aren't there bits of it, though, that Harry's not positive about? Like, he sees it, but the detailed story we get in the first chapter of GoF isn't told through his eyes, we just know that he has some idea of what's happened... *shrug* I've just confused myself

[paintballdecoy]

I thought that he say everything to do with Voldemort, but nothing about Frank in his cabin. He heard voldemort talking with Wormtail and he saw Voldemort kill frack. Then when he woke he could remember bits and pieces of it

[Alice I]

But that is not the only time Harry had trouble remembering the details of his dreams especially when they were connected to Voldemort. I think that the whole set up with Frank in his cabin then seeing the firelight and going to the house was background for the reader, but the juxt of the point was to be seen through Harry's eyes as a dream.

[Athena Appleton]

Anyway, we have totally gone off-topic...

I still want Nobby's take on the fact that one dinner had only 12 people, and the one with 13 doesn't mention Sirius getting up first.

[Nobby]

sorry haven't been online for 3 days!!!!!!!!


with the dinner, i swear its says that sirius leaves first after they eat, i haven't got the book to hand so it might be my mistake!

[Athena Appleton]

nope...

With Christmas lunch, the story skips over dinner completely... it goes from Hermione wanting to give Kreacher his gift and Sirius talking about how he hadn't seen him anywhere, but he mustn't get his hopes up, then it says "Once they had had their Christmas lunch, the Weasleys and Harry and Hermione were planning to pay Mr. Weasley another visit, escorted by Mad-eye and Lupin." That's the dinner with only twelve.

The last dinner of vacation, the one with 13 people, here's what it says:

"That night's meal should have been a cheerful one with Mr. Weasley back amongst them; Harry could tell Sirius was trying to make it so, yet when his godfather was not forcing himself to laugh loudly at Fred and George's jokes or offering everyone more food, his face fell back into a moody, brooding expression. Harry was separated from him by Mundungus and Mad-Eye, who had dropped in to offer Mr. Weasley their congratulations; he wanted to talk to Sirius, to tell him that he should not listen to a word Snape had said, that Snape was goading him deliberately and that the rest of them did not think Sirius was a coward for doing as Dumbledore told him and remaining in Grimmauld Place, but he had no opportunity to do so, and wondered occasionally, eyeing the ugly look on Sirius's face, whether he would have dared to even if he had the chance. Instead he told Ron and Hermione under his voice about having to take Occlumency lessons with Snape."

After this, it makes no more mention of the dinner or Sirius, and two sentences down, they're about to leave to board the Knight Bus.

[Nobby]

i'm wrong then

*walks off in shame*

[Athena Appleton]

awwww... he could have stood up first...

[AngelicS_89]

Still,interesting theory...Maybe it could mean something,just we don't know who stood up first.And still I think Trewleyn(sp?) is good at her job,and we'll find out that sooner or later...

[Alice I]

And still I think Trewleyn(sp?) is good at her job,and we'll find out that sooner or later...

I don't think I agree with that Fluffy bear.
I have the same opinion as Hermione on this one; Trelawney is just an old fraud.

[Evil Wizard Petting Zoo]

I think I agree with Firenze when it comes to Trelawney. She seems to predict trivial human events, some of which come true, but are of no real importance.

[sweetangel]

I agree with the evil wizard...she does predic some but they arent very important