Wormtail the last marauder?

[Athena Appleton]

I think it's more likely that Lupin will be killed by someone he may not expect would be killing him...

I'm reading from the Ultimate Unofficial Guide to the Mysteries of Harry Potter, pg. 200:

Not only is Lupin's last name derived from the Latin word for wolf, but, according to the legend of Romulus and Remus, Remus was murdered by his brother (or by his brother's followers)... There is a lot more to learn about Lupin (like what the "J" in R.J. Lupin stands for)

Well, I read in a chat that (I think) the "J" stands for James, but it was some "boring" name, and Rowling said it wasn't major for the story.

But is it possible someone Lupin trusts (a "brother") will be the one to kill him?

[Writer]

The J is John I read it in an interview

Wormtail the last marauder... That's such a scary thought! I'm serious I'm scared by that! Wormtail is disgusting. I HATE him (as much as one can hate a fictional character). But then again he doesn't even deserve death. He deserves a Dementor's kiss or something.

[Ferrus]

An additional aspect to the Romulus and Remus (who where twin brothers BTW) legend is that Remus was murdered be Romulus to gain power and become the only ruler of the kingdom of Rome.

[Phinea Rogue]

But as Romulus, even in those times, was much more famous than his brother Remus, if Remus had a brother, we would already heard of him (does that make any sense? ) I still hope that Remus will survive. Many people expect him to die, so I hope he won't, as JKR rarelyd does something we expect to happen.

[Athena Appleton]

But as Romulus, even in those times, was much more famous than his brother Remus, if Remus had a brother, we would already heard of him (does that make any sense? ) I still hope that Remus will survive. Many people expect him to die, so I hope he won't, as JKR rarelyd does something we expect to happen.

I think you're getting a little to literal for me.

[Evil Wizard Petting Zoo]

How come we've never heard much about Romulus before? Ok, this just hit me, everyone thinks Aberforth is the Hog's Head bartender. Did we get a description/age of him or did we just get "he looked strangely familiar," maybe Romulus is the bartender.

Hah, I just answered my own question, I think we haven't heard much from Romulus b/c he's embarassed or scared of Remus because of the whole werewolf thing.

[Athena Appleton]

ooookay, like I said, y'all are getting too literal for me.

I don't think there's a Romulus in the Harry Potter stories. I think the name Remus is a clue to keep in mind what happened to the mythical (or whatever) Remus. Killed by someone he was close to (or by the followers of someone he was close to). Don't think Remus's momma had twin boys and named them Remus and Romulus.

Aberforth is thought by a lot of people (myself included) to be the bartender of the Hogs Head for a few reasons. He is strangely familiar to Harry, like an old friend. It's possible Aberforth strongly resembles Albus Dumbledore, but is no identical twin by any means, so Harry could notice the resemblence without really realizing there's the resemblance. Also, Aberforth was in trouble with the ministry for inappropriate charms with a goat. The Hog's Head smells like a goat. Goats aren't mentioned a whole lot, so it's possible that's what the Aberforth-goat-HogsHead tie in is.

[Evil Wizard Petting Zoo]

I'm pretty sure somewhere one of the books says Remus has a brother named Romulus.

Also, Aberforth was in trouble with the ministry for inappropriate charms with a goat. The Hog's Head smells like a goat. Goats aren't mentioned a whole lot, so it's possible that's what the Aberforth-goat-HogsHead tie in is.

Good point. I didn't catch the goat thing.

[Athena Appleton]

I'm pretty sure somewhere one of the books says Remus has a brother named Romulus.

Not that I've ever seen, and I've read and reread the books, but since I'm working my way through them again, I'll keep my eyes on the lookout... but I really really don't think there's ever mention of a Romulus.

[Groo]

about Wormtail being weak
remember that everyone was really scared of sirius in the 3rd book because "he murdered 13 people with one curse". people were discussing that in awe. now that we know wormtail did it, surely he is powerful??

i dont think Lupin has a brother. the point about Aberforth was fascinating. but i wonder why he isnt in the order right now? and surely one would hope that he is atleast half as talented as Dumbledore!!
but Dumbledore mentions in GoF that Aberforth cant read so i dont think he went to Hogwarts

[AngelicS_89]

Welcome Groo! Good point for Wormatail you know,If ppl were scared of Sirius if they would new that Wormtail did it they would be equal scared of him.

[Alice I]

Welcom Groo.

Wormtail is uniformly described as weak and/or talentless throughout the books. I don't think that Sirius was considered fearsome just because he blew up the street, it was more a case of his laughing after he was arrested. Everyone thought he was mad!

[Athena Appleton]

The thing with Sirius is that I think people realized he had the power to do it any day of the week... they were more in awe that he actually did it. I think if things had happened differently, and Wormtail were caught, they would be more in awe that he actually managed to pull it off.

the point about Aberforth was fascinating. but i wonder why he isnt in the order right now? and surely one would hope that he is atleast half as talented as Dumbledore!!

We dont' know he's not. I dont' think we know who all the Order members are. And it would make sense, after all. Harry's not in the Order, so he doesn't know all the members. I think there's a good possibility that Aberforth is in the Order, and we just dont' know about it yet.

but Dumbledore mentions in GoF that Aberforth cant read so i dont think he went to Hogwarts

Yeah, but he doesn't state it like it's fact. I mean, I think there's some curiosity as to whether or not Crabbe and Goyle can read, too...

[Evil Wizard Petting Zoo]

I think Wormtail is powerful (the blowing up the street killing 13 ppl and all) he's kind of a Neville-like character, he will surprise us once in a while with a good bit of magic.

I think Aberforth went to Hogwarts, Hagrid says they'll take anyone as long as they've got the talent. Maybe they can bewitch books to read to you if you can't read.

I feel dumb, I can't find where Lupin has a brother. I dunno how I remembered someone saying he did, b/c I really did think it was in there somewhere! I guess not:oops:

[Athena Appleton]

No biggie.

I think the thing with Remus's name is a hint that he's a werewolf (Remus and Romulus were raised by a shewolf) and possibly that he'll meet his end at the hand of a "brother" (close friend) or a "brother's" follower (but it could just be the werewolf hint).