Snape's other two memories he didn't want Harry to see

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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Friday 26 March 2004 9:30:02pm

Well, Dumbledore didn't have much choice about who was going to teach Harry. Dumbledore couldn't because of LV "flickering" behind Harry's eyes. And if DD and Harry spent that much time together Harry acting like LV's snake, mighta taken a chunk outta DD. So that left Snape b/c he's the only other Occlumens around. I think Snape shoulda been more open-minded and less emotional about what happened 20 years ago with James.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Friday 26 March 2004 9:38:00pm

yeah, like i said, I think the only person who's to blame for Harry's not learning Occlumency is Harry.
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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Saturday 27 March 2004 1:51:59am

Geez, this makes me wonder how much worse Harry and Snape's relationship is going to be next book. That gets me to thinking that maybe why Snape joined the DE's was just to be against James, not to do evil and LV's bidding, just so he can get back at James with some evil LV backing him up. Then Snape switched sides because he realized he was being evil for the wrong reasons. So he did the right thing even though it meant being on the same side as James. Perhaps that was enough for Dumbledore. Bah, it's late I'm just rambling on... :-?
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Postby Athena Appleton » Saturday 27 March 2004 4:29:52am

that's a good thought... but didn't Sirius say that Snape was really into dark arts even before he was at Hogwarts?
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Postby Ferrus » Saturday 27 March 2004 12:23:08pm

Sirius did say something about that in PoA or GoF, I think that Snape, like Sirius, came from a really hard-core pure-blood wizard family that where (on top of everything) also dark wizards.
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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Sunday 28 March 2004 2:07:21am

yeah, Sirius said Snape knew more curses than most 7th years when he was in 1st. I want to know alot more about his past, parents, etc.
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Postby AngelicS_89 » Sunday 28 March 2004 5:39:25pm

Evil Wizard Petting Zoo wrote:yeah, Sirius said Snape knew more curses than most 7th years when he was in 1st. I want to know alot more about his past, parents, etc.


Yeah,I would like to find out something more about them too....
I think that Snape wanted to hide there all the informations he knew for Order,and some bad memories that he wouldn't like Harry to find,cause Harry could find out things that he shouldn't know if he would defence and strike back at Snape...You know that DD didn't want Harry to know everything what was happening in the Order..
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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Sunday 28 March 2004 7:49:30pm

Yeah, not to mention if ol' Voldy is looking in on things through Harry's eyes. That wouldn't be too good for the Order.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Sunday 28 March 2004 9:00:13pm

yeah, I mean, it's not exactly a shock that there are thoughts/memories/fears that Snape would keep from Harry, for good reason.

I just had a thought about the Occlumency lessons... what if they weren't really set up to be just lessons? What if Dumbledore was kind of hoping that, while Harry was learning Occlumency and Snape was invading his mind, Snape would learn additional information about Voldemort?
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Postby Mistress Siana » Sunday 28 March 2004 11:57:59pm

I think the fact that Snape had to teach Harry occlumency definitely means something. At least, it makes it rather unlikely that Snape is still working as a spy. I mean, just think about how dangerous it would have been for him if Voldemort gained access to his mind via Harry's eyes!

I definitely want to know more about his background. It has never been mentioned that he's a pure-blood, but I think that's what is most likely. But wasn't he constantly wearing shabby clothes? I think that wouldn't have been the case if he's from a wealthy family. Don't ask me why, but I've always imagined the Snapes as a kinda fallen dynasty...or something like that.
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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Monday 29 March 2004 12:10:02am

I definitely want to know more about his background. It has never been mentioned that he's a pure-blood, but I think that's what is most likely. But wasn't he constantly wearing shabby clothes? I think that wouldn't have been the case if he's from a wealthy family. Don't ask me why, but I've always imagined the Snapes as a kinda fallen dynasty...or something like that.

Yeah, I think Snape's pureblood and I bet he comes from this evil Black-like family. I mean, what mother would name her baby "Severus?" Anyone with that kinda name is gonna have problems.

Also, in Snape's memory,how come we didn't see Snape with any of his evil Slytherin buds? Sirius says he has some Slyth friends in OoTP. I wonder where they were.
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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Monday 29 March 2004 12:10:31am

I definitely want to know more about his background. It has never been mentioned that he's a pure-blood, but I think that's what is most likely. But wasn't he constantly wearing shabby clothes? I think that wouldn't have been the case if he's from a wealthy family. Don't ask me why, but I've always imagined the Snapes as a kinda fallen dynasty...or something like that.

Yeah, I think Snape's pureblood and I bet he comes from this evil Black-like family. I mean, what mother would name her baby "Severus?" Anyone with that kinda name is gonna have problems.

Also, in Snape's memory,how come we didn't see Snape with any of his evil Slytherin buds? Sirius says he has some Slyth friends in OoTP. I wonder where they were.
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I didn't get the impression..

Postby hbic3 » Monday 29 March 2004 12:22:39am

I'm reading the first book again, and have just passed the part where Hagrid explains to Harry that some wizards crossed to Voldemort because they wanted a bit of his power.

Since, in his memory, Snape was powerless against James Potter, that, I took to be the reason why Snape crossed. Not because he came from a evil dark family. He just wanted to get even with James, and needed more power.
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Postby Emma'I'm a real witch' » Monday 29 March 2004 12:28:42am

Its possible that Snape became a death eater to try and gain the power to defeat James, but I think it is more probable that it was to do with his facination with the dark arts that he got all mixed up with Voldy.
Maybe he knew someone who (Lucius Malfoy??) was already involved and got introduced that way.

As in he didn't directly seek out LV to get one up on James.
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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Monday 29 March 2004 12:32:26am

Yeah, because Snape was already into the Dark Arts. He probably was scouted to become a DE.

Whoops, sorry for that double-post back there. :oops:
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