Mark Evans

[Athena Appleton]

Harry did use magic accidentally a few times when Dud & Co. were beating him up... but most of the time he didn't.
We're talking about one beating here... Mark might not have done magic necessarily.

[wizard_gurl4ev]

good point u never know what Rowling will do

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[Meg Boyd]

I have an idea...

What if Harry grandparents (or perhaps just one of them) had a child out of wedlock and gave it to authorities to be put up for adoption. This child might've resembled Lily and might have displayed some magical talent as a small baby (even Neville bounced out of trouble magically as a small child) creating Lily the favorite when she came along since she was a rememberance of the dear one left behind. Now back then these sort of things were kept hush hush, and perhaps this child never associated it self with the Evans, never knowing...and since no one else knew, this child was never thought of as a blood relative when DD was looking for a new family for Harry. Then this child could have had a family, thus bringing Mark to the world??? Eh???

[Athena Appleton]

could be... that's kinda what I'm thinkin, actually

[Jotomicron]

I have an idea...

What if Harry grandparents (or perhaps just one of them) had a child out of wedlock and gave it to authorities to be put up for adoption. This child might've resembled Lily and might have displayed some magical talent as a small baby (even Neville bounced out of trouble magically as a small child) creating Lily the favorite when she came along since she was a rememberance of the dear one left behind. Now back then these sort of things were kept hush hush, and perhaps this child never associated it self with the Evans, never knowing...and since no one else knew, this child was never thought of as a blood relative when DD was looking for a new family for Harry. Then this child could have had a family, thus bringing Mark to the world??? Eh???

But why would he use the Evans surname? Or have I missed some part of your theory?
Good one, though! I like to think Mark Evans is related to the Magical World...


~Just wonder about ev'rything... It's good to your mind~

[Meg Boyd]

I dunno one of my friends is adopted and uses his birth mom's surname, I really don't know.

[Athena Appleton]

I GOT IT!!!!

Okay... there's a lot of background stuff, so follow closely.

Lily and Petunia have the same mother and father, and the charm that protects Harry relies on EXACT bloodline. Their father either was married before marrying their mother or had an illegitimate son before either Lily or Petunia were born. This explains why Harry had to be left with Petunia and not his uncle... The uncle had a different mom, so he didn't have the exact same blood as Lily had. Either way, even if they knew about this half-brother (same father, different mother), Petunia wouldn't have told anyone about him because she likes to have the picture-perfect anything, and neither a remarriage or an illigitimate son fit into what she wants the neighbors to think (believable, I think, due to the fits she has about things as simple as Harry's messy appearance). This child would still have the Evans surname (especially if it was due to a remarriage before Lily and Petunia were born).
When Harry is looking into the Mirror of Erised, he thinks all his relatives except the Dursleys are dead. Therefore, his greatest desire is to see his dead relatives. Live ones wouldn't have shown up. Think of it like this, we know none of us have relatives that live on the moon. Therefore, it wouldn't be anyone's desire to see their relatives who live on the moon. Harry "knows" he doesn't have living relatives, so it isn't his desire to see his living ones (he thinks the Dursleys are the only living ones, and he for sure wouldn't want to see them).
So, conclusion:

1. The protection charm relied on exact blood match.
2. Uncle is older and either unknown to Petunia or rejected by Petunia.
3. The Mirror of Erised is exact. If you wish to see your relatives you think are dead, you see the relatives you think are dead.

[Meg Boyd]

grrr...this is my THIRD time writing this post...if it becomes a triple post I am sorry but my computer is acting weird

So...all I have to say is that is idea is just brilliant!

[Athena Appleton]

why thank you! it took me a long time to work out the kinks, but i think i finally got it... now, just watch. book six will come along and she'll have totally confused me again...

[Jotomicron]

(I don't know if I'm spelling it just as you did, but: YEGZACKLY )

This just fits... And, therefore, after reading the sixth book, we will be totally confused again, cause we'll get more info that might slightly contradicte you...

So, Harry has an uncle (Lilly's half-brother) who has a son. How much chance do you think Mark has of becoming a wizard?...

Wait... As I'm writing this, I'm getting an idea. Just forget what you read till this point:
Harry's grandfather (Lilly's father) was married. He had a son. Something happened and he remerried. Petunia was born and then Lilly... We know that Lilliy's parents were very happy to have a witch in the family. So, I guess one of them could have known about the wizarding world before. What if Lilly's father's first wife was a witch herself, and (let's say she died or left), when Lilly firstly did some magical stuff, her father became very very happy?
This could mean that, having a witch as a mother, Harry's uncle would have been a wizard, and teherefore, Mark might have a great possibility of being one.

Ok, I don't know if this fits in the thread, but I wanted to write this so hard that I wrote it right here...

[Athena Appleton]

very very possible... and i wouldn't worry about it not fitting in the thread... seems almost all of them get off topic at some point...

but, thinking back on what Broccoli said in the "magical squib" thread, the ministry doesn't have any registered wizards in Harry's vicinity... wonder if only fully-grown wizards are registered (Mark's dad was a squib, and therefore not registered, since Mrs. Figg wasn't registered either, and Mark isn't old enough to be registered).... hmmmmmm....

[Jotomicron]

You know what I'm thinking? Maybe Mark and his family were just pasing by... Visiting old friends... who knows if they were visiting Petunia... but in that case... Harry wouldn't know Marks full name, right?... Hmm! Or maybe they could be running from the MoM, and so they weren't registry. That's the perfect place for a wizard to hide, if the Ministry looking for him. I mean, who would look into a completely Muggle neighbourhood?

[Athena Appleton]

huh... i think it's a no-go on the just-passing-through thing... and something I'm a little confused about: the MoM seems to know some things in detail and immediately... others they seem to totally be in the dark on. I mean, they have magical ways of keeping up with some things (when magic is used around muggles, etc.) but when Voldy used magic around Frank Bryce, they didn't even seem to know he was there... it's weird, and seems kind of inconsistant, which is in itself inconsistant with Rowling's consistancy of consistancy... I mean, she doesn't seem to contradict herself often, does she?

[Ferrus]

it's weird, and seems kind of inconsistant, which is in itself inconsistant with Rowling's consistancy of consistancy...

I think that would make any linguist go round the bend...

athena´s theory is quite good, but I think the ministry would keep tags on underaged wizards...

My bet is on Petunia anyway

[Athena Appleton]

athena´s theory is quite good, but I think the ministry would keep tags on underaged wizards...

k... i'm following you............

My bet is on Petunia anyway

aaaaaaand you lost me...........

Your bet is on petunia to be/do/say what?