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Attack of the Elves

Postby Cougie » Friday 12 August 2005 1:44:36am

Ok. Elves seem to be all powerful. Dobby can easily win a duel against Lucius Malfoy. Elves can apparate even in Hogwarts. They do all sorts of controlled magic without wands...What else can they do?

I believe they probably are capable of defending the community or hunt down Death Eaters.

The question is: Would they be willing to go to war?
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Postby Lelie » Friday 12 August 2005 2:06:57am

doubtful. some of them would have to revolt against their masters, and even when they know they are bad they wont do that. (winky, for example.) now, if people SENT their house elves to fight they would... sure
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Postby Mrs. Luca Black » Friday 12 August 2005 2:11:22am

This is such a cute idea! Kudos for coming up with it!

I can so see Dobby out there kicking some serious Death Eater rump, tailing Draco from time to time just to ensure that he's thoroughly miserable(who deserves to do this more than Dobby because you know Draco did everything he could to keep Dobby miserable, probably even more so than his parents), and just otherwise mucking things up for the Death Eaters and being all sneaky and out-of-the-way about it because that's the mark of a good house elf.

I imagine that most house elves would never dare dream of harming a human. For whatever reason the entire race is bound to serve humans, and I doubt there are too many like Dobby that would be willing to shake off their shackles and go against any humans. If someone were to order their house elf to fight in the war, then it would happen, but that's just not how things work in the wizarding world. I imagine it would be frightening to them because there's the chance that it might bring out a bloodlust in house elves that's been repressed for centuries. (Hey, all other small, humanoid things seem to be at least be cranky if not completely evil.) Having house elves battling might be a bit too remniscent of the gobling rebellions, which, I believe, were incredibly bloody. The idea of forcing your elf too fight is not too far fetched though, slave owners forced their slaves to fight in the Civil War.

So, it is possible for the elves to fight, but not likely that it will be on their own accord. But your right, they certainly seem to have the ability to do real damage, even if they don't have the will.
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Postby Person1 » Friday 12 August 2005 8:04:39pm

Who said they had to fight the death eaters, as you recall the Dementors are also on LV's side and a large problem...
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Postby Mrs. Luca Black » Saturday 13 August 2005 4:24:22pm

I suppose the Death Eaters could force their house elves to attack, but I don't see many of them giving up their creature comforts or the enjoyment of the kill (ahem, Bellatrix). Also, I can't see any revolting House Elves to fight with the Death Eaters. Remember how Dobby said that things were much more horrible for house elves when Voldemort was in power before? Bound servitude is one thing, but forced oppression and abuse is another, I mean, that is what made Dobby snap and enjoy being free so much. (Winky may have had to do a horrible task, but I hardly believe she was being oppressed and abused, if anything Mr. Crouch would have treated her better because she doing such a -precious- task.)

And the dementors are on Voldemort's side because they are inherantly evil creatures. They want nothing more than to suck all the happiness and soul out of every human they meet. Voldemort lets them attack innocents at will (and breed at will, but ewww I'd hate to be in that mist) while the Ministry held them tightly at bay. They have everything to gain by switching sides, when the house elves would have everything to lose. I wouldn't be surprised if a few more elves start running away from their homes like Dobby did (and I'd be willing to take each and every one of them into my own home, hehe).
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Postby Salazar Slytherin » Monday 15 August 2005 12:18:57pm

i agree it would be quite cute to see little dobby out there fighting evil :lol:
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Postby Cougie » Tuesday 16 August 2005 1:09:38am

There could still be some hope for SPEW. Perhap in helping to fight the Dark Forces, wizards would free all the elves.

Don't think this could never happen because houses elves don't want to be free. History has many major changes.
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Postby PaperFlowers101 » Sunday 21 August 2005 9:47:46pm

I think that house elves are one of the most powerful races in the wizarding world, and therefore could take out the death eaters pretty well. However, you guys are right, most of them probably wouldn't go to war willingly, but it's like Luca said mentioned: Dobby says things were much worse when voldemort was in power. My theory is the free ones who lived through that most likely don't wanna go through it again. Maybe they would change their minds and help take down the d.e.'s after all if it would mean voldemort wouldn't be coming back to power. As for the ones who are still serving humans who won't let them go, I'm really not sure about them.
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Postby SunsetG|rl » Sunday 21 August 2005 10:11:22pm

i think what dobby was saying, about beeing all bad was strictly reffering to his situation in the malfoy family. and i doubt there are any house elves free. as i have said before i think wizards, most of them anyway, are just to proud to pay any real attention to the house elves, which they consider to be an inferior rase. though they are smart and powerfull, they are thought to believe that they are slaves and that they are inferior. (it kinda reminds me of the situation on the black people some time ago - just because now i'm reading that book about uncle tom by stowe- though it is somewhat different).

so, not being paid attention, they won't be used to war. and i think that even in LV's time, the house elves of the kind wizarding families were actually ok. treated ok i mean. though there might just be the stress that was in that time.
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Postby Barny The Barn » Thursday 17 November 2005 1:37:53pm

There will be some free elves if Hogwarts doesn't re-open... I like the idea of an Elf Revolt!
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Postby Chimera » Tuesday 6 December 2005 11:00:53pm

More chance of the elves going to war if SPEW was to have a few changes. If Dobby was to co-chair SPEW alongside Hermione and SPEW became sort of a trade union for the elves then I can see the elves being better able to grasp their potential for positive change.
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Postby SunsetG|rl » Wednesday 7 December 2005 8:06:32am

Can you imagine that like thousands of years from now. Students at Hogwarts studying with same old Professor Binns:

P Binns put on the booooooooring voice:
"The great aligience between the elves and humans took off during the 2 year's terrible war.... "
*Here follows a log story on how they were set free. Though far from truth and all boring. Even the elves students (they do have the right to study now) are extreeeemly bored*

:) I'm not really good at fan fic. But I do have a test at history soon enough and it's sooo boring and hard to study. It's geting an obsession now. :P

Anyway, back on the topic. I wanted to say that do you really think it will be easy to free them? For most of them being a slave it's an honour. And few, maybe only Dobby enjoy freedom. It's like this thing they were taught. I think there's hope only for the next generation.
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Postby Nicolas Flamel » Friday 30 December 2005 1:16:52am

i think the elves are bound to revolt at some time, but maybe they won't actually help either side, they realise instead that now is their chance to seize power and "sneak in through the backdoor" so to speak while everyone else is fighting one another!

and so begins the rule of the elves..........
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Postby SunsetG|rl » Friday 30 December 2005 12:27:41pm

Or acording to some the rule of SNape who will use all the elves to gain power.... He let's them think they'll have freedom when instead a whole new era of darknes for both...I mean for all men wizards and elves.
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Postby Phoenix in the Ashes » Thursday 5 January 2006 10:33:00am

I'm afriad though, that once they seize power, and see for once being independent that possibly after it all, they would wage war against all wizardry.

So it might not be the best thing...
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