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Postby jarvan49 » Thursday 8 January 2004 8:32:15pm

I dont know if this has been mentioned before or not but could aberforth be crookshanks? my guess is probably not but it was on my head and i had to mention it.

If he's not crookshanks, then i have a question. do you think crookshanks is a animagus or not? if yes, who is it?
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Postby Phinea Rogue » Thursday 8 January 2004 8:41:54pm

I've read somewhere that Crookshanks may be Sirius' brother Regulus. That's because Regulus was mentioned on that family tree not only as a name, but with more details - how he died, when exactly, who he was and so on... But I don't know... And surely there's something about Aberforth too. Why was he mentioned? JKR never mentions anything without coming back to it later.
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Postby Mistress Siana » Thursday 8 January 2004 11:41:43pm

But wha does he appear as Crookshanks on the marauder's map then? But then again, noobody noticed that scabbers was in fact pettigrew, so...after all, Albus's field is transfiguration. Would be a nice twist in the plot!
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Postby Augusta Longbottom » Friday 9 January 2004 1:04:36am

yes, Scabbers did appear as Pettigrew on the Marauder's Map. The times harry used the MM, he either didn't notice Pettigrew since he was really just looking for a clear path to Hogsmeade or Pettigrew may not have been at Hogwarts if Ron had taken him to Hogsmeade with him. At any rate, for one reason or another, Harry never noticed Pettigrew on the map. But when Lupin confiscated the map from Harry, later as he watched the map, he saw Pettigrew and that is why he followed them all to the tunnel to the Shrieking Shack and it was because he saw Pettigrew that he insisted that Ron hand over his rat.
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Postby AngelicS_89 » Monday 26 July 2004 3:19:36pm

Yes,I've fianlly founhd this topic...I've read something in hp-lexicon,that really got me thinkin' and I think it maybe even be truth cause it alol matchs.Please read this and that say what do you think of it...

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/aberforth.html

:o It makes you wonder...Is Aberforth right in front of our noses?
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Postby AngelicS_89 » Monday 26 July 2004 3:27:28pm

And another thing,when someone "overheard" DA first meeting in Hog's head,I don't think that was Mundugus,actually I think,knowing Mundugus,he was miles away buying some cauldrons that "were dropped from a broom".I think it was Aberforth,and that they just didn't want to give out his indentity.It all fits.
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Postby Alice I » Monday 26 July 2004 7:51:16pm

I have developed this rather silly theory about who Aberforth really is.

Dumbledore seems to know the future all the time.
What if he has a time turner, but then I thought if he were constantly going back in time then the chances of him causing a paradox would increase exponentially every time he went back so that lead me to discount the idea. Then I though what if he is going through the whole thing once.

OK what I mean by that is perhaps he had this time turner and things went very very badly wrong and Voldemort took over the world and destroyed everything. So Dumbledore went back in time a very long way and had his other self take on the identity of his brother Aberforth and he very carefully manipulates events to foil Voldemort without causing the butterfly effect so to speak.

Yes very far fetched I know but what the heck this is all for fun anyway.
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Postby AngelicS_89 » Monday 26 July 2004 8:15:49pm

You see,I could think that's just silly,when I wouldn't have a similar theory.As I said in HBP thread,all the time confusion in wizarding world is very funny...And I think that things can be so weird there that it wouldn't be strange to find out,that someone is in same time a his father,or I dunno,something like that,so your theory could even make sense...
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Postby Jinxed Angie » Monday 26 July 2004 11:19:49pm

I desagree with crookshanks being anyone but himself, that doesn't exclude the fact that he could be an animagus. Maybe crookshanks is some hidden wizard that is trying to help harry, he could be from the Order or something, but we can't think that he is Albus' brother or Sirius' brother, because JKR specified them.

Maybe Crookshanks' identity will only be revealed in the next book. But I think Regulus, Aberforth and Crookshanks r V.I.P.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Tuesday 27 July 2004 3:18:30am

You stole my avatar!!! :-(

:lol: just kiddin... welcome to broomsticks and owls, angie!

I have a little theory about this one...

First, Rowling has made some pretty heavy hints that Crookshanks is a kneazle. If you want to know what a kneazle is, look it up in the book "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them" (by Newt Scamander, all the proceeds to go Comic Relief UK, a charity organization that helps homeless and starving people.) I think it's a form of very intelligent cat.

I can't help but roll my eyes every time someone makes a comment about "could this or that animal really be this or that person???" because the whole unregistered animagus thing has run its course, I think. It would show a complete lack of imagination on Rowling's part to have yet another instance of this.

I think Aberforth is the owner or barkeep of the Hog's Head. He's a strange guy, Harry felt as though he knew him (and Harry had seen Aberforth in a picture once not too long before), and the Hog's Head smells faintly of goats... Aberforth got into a bit of trouble for performing "inappropriate charms on a goat."
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Postby Jinxed Angie » Tuesday 27 July 2004 4:07:04pm

Athena Appleton wrote:First, Rowling has made some pretty heavy hints that Crookshanks is a kneazle. If you want to know what a kneazle is, look it up in the book "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them" (by Newt Scamander, all the proceeds to go Comic Relief UK, a charity organization that helps homeless and starving people.) I think it's a form of very intelligent cat.


I lost my book!!! :cry: I need to buy a new one! *Determined :x
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Postby jarvan49 » Tuesday 27 July 2004 5:33:55pm

I can't help but roll my eyes every time someone makes a comment about "could this or that animal really be this or that person???" because the whole unregistered animagus thing has run its course, I think. It would show a complete lack of imagination on Rowling's part to have yet another instance of this.


I agree, Athena but I originally posted my comments on January 9th. That was a long time ago. I never realized that this thread started again.

Anyways. I agree that crookshanks is a kneazle. But i think Aberforth will be somewhat important in the next books.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Tuesday 27 July 2004 6:25:13pm

:lol: my bad. I didn't even realize that this wasn't a new thread! :grin:

I think there's more to be seen of Aberforth, too... but I do definately believe that he's the barkeep and possible owner of the Hogs Head.
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Postby paintballdecoy » Monday 9 August 2004 7:01:19am

jarvan49 wrote: But i think Aberforth will be somewhat important in the next books.


Really? I haven't really read anything in the series that would suggest that. I mean the only mentioning of him is a little comment by Dumbledore. Then again I could have missed something, plus, its 2 am :-?
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Postby Athena Appleton » Monday 9 August 2004 11:53:59am

Well, speaking as someone who is wide awake at 5 a.m. (grrrrrrrrr!!!!), I would have to agree with you paintball. I think there's something more to be seen of Aberforth, but more like the Hogs Head becomes an official kind of meeting place for the good guys (assuming my Aberforth theory is correct).

BTW, there's two Aberforth mentions... Moody points him out in OotP when he's showing Harry the picture of the original Order. So, we know he's an odd guy who got in trouble for inappropriate charms on a goat (*shudders*) and used to be in the Order. And since, so far, we know the names and fates of the few people who are no longer in the Order, either by leaving it (Pettigrew) or by death or torture, it can be assumed that he's in the Order still.
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