the human horcrux

[Athena Appleton]

There's a lot of talk about how Voldemort's final Horcrux was to be a person. A lot of people seem to think this was supposed to be Harry, but I don't think so, since Voldemort has mentioned clearly that he intended to kill Harry, and I don't think you'd kill your own Horcrux.

Another big topic of discussion is why was Lily given the choice to get out of the way and save herself? Rowling said in the mugglenet interview on the 16th that James had no choice, Voldemort was going to kill him anyway. I think it's possible that James was going to be the person killed in order to make Lily a horcrux. That would explain a motivation for Voldemort to let her live, and she'd be a really powerful witch to have on his side if an Imperius Curse was used.

Simplified: Voldemort went to the Potters' home to do something to all three. Harry, naturally, was to be killed. Lily was to be made into a Horcrux and possibly forced to join Voldemort, and James was the murder that would be needed to make her one. When Lily wouldn't get out of the way, though, Voldemort probably figured "well, this isn't what the plan was, but I'll kill her, kill Harry, and find someone else to be the last Horcrux."

If this is true, what are the chances that he was never able to create the seventh Horcrux? He lost his powers when the plan to kill Harry backfired, so he wasn't able to go back and do that. What if Harry is caught off guard while wasting time looking for the seventh (intended but not realized) Horcrux, and that's how the final battle begins?

Just a theory to put up with all the others, but I think it's a little more likely than that he was in love with her or she was his secret love child or something.

[Bextra]

maybe he didnt want to make the 7th horcrux?? because maybe he thought that no one would find out about any of the horcruxes. well those are just maybes, i dunno.

[Phaerie]

we're pretty sure he intended to make seven Horcruxes although whether he actually managed it is debatable.

I don't think he ever ntended to use a living Harry as his Horcrux. But possibly use his corpse- after all this could be preserved by magic. Its kind of the ultimate finish. Putting the finishing touches to your immortality, by killing the only person who was meant to be able to destroy you and as a trophy (as we've learnt Voldemortis rather fond of trophies) your enemy's corpse.

I also think its possible that the horcrux could have been something simple like one of Harry's toys

As for a live person being a horcrux i think its kind of unlikely. For example if it was Lily- somebody who really wants the fall of tVoldemort. OK they'd be under the imperius curse, but it appears that after long periods of it one does start to fight it off. What would happen if this person did "wake up" and realise at some point that they were a horcrux- maybe you'd notice you were carrying around an extra bit of soul. If it was someone like Lily wouldn't they be quite likely to kill themselves in order to destroy the piece of soul.

However this doesn't mean that Voldemort didn't intend to make Lily a livining Horcrux. it just makes the whole thing rather risky..

[Athena Appleton]

we're pretty sure he intended to make seven Horcruxes although whether he actually managed it is debatable.

I don't think he ever ntended to use a living Harry as his Horcrux. But possibly use his corpse- after all this could be preserved by magic.

I gotta admit possible stupidity on here, but how long are Inferi good for? I mean, is it like they can be used for hours, days, however long you need them? And someone somewhere on here suggested that James and Lily could be used in the future as Inferi, but they would be skeletons, and not really technically corpses, wouldn't they?

Its kind of the ultimate finish. Putting the finishing touches to your immortality, by killing the only person who was meant to be able to destroy you and as a trophy (as we've learnt Voldemortis rather fond of trophies) your enemy's corpse.

Depending upon how long it was good. If a corpse can't be preserved for an infinate amount of time, you wouldn't want to use it. Using anything that's likely to be disposed of or something that won't be good years and years from now would not be a good Horcrux, because you're hoping to use it not anytime in the near future. So, assuming it can be done, I guess that would be the ultimate Horcrux for Voldemort: the boy who was supposed to kill him will be the reason he stays immortal.

I also think its possible that the horcrux could have been something simple like one of Harry's toys

Just wondering: if it were one of Harry's toys or something, do you think, then, that the Horcrux was never made? Because Voldemort wouldn't have been able to make it after attacking Harry.

As for a live person being a horcrux i think its kind of unlikely. For example if it was Lily- somebody who really wants the fall of tVoldemort. OK they'd be under the imperius curse, but it appears that after long periods of it one does start to fight it off. What would happen if this person did "wake up" and realise at some point that they were a horcrux- maybe you'd notice you were carrying around an extra bit of soul. If it was someone like Lily wouldn't they be quite likely to kill themselves in order to destroy the piece of soul.

However this doesn't mean that Voldemort didn't intend to make Lily a livining Horcrux. it just makes the whole thing rather risky..

I have no idea... it was just a thought after wondering why Lily was allowed to live.... *shrug*

[Fantasy girl]

what if LV used something from his childhood, correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't the diary one? what if he used something else from his childhood

[crystallised_pineapple]

yeah like maybe the mouth organ or something that DD found in his wardrobe, i mean that would have meaning as it was there the moment he found out he was a wizard...

[Fantasy girl]

something with symbolism, but we don't know much info on LV's childhood

[xtreme_matt32]

well id definietely wasnt the mouth organ...DD says,
" very astute Harry, but the mouth organ was only ever a mouth organ".