wandless magic?

[thestral]

just wondering after re-reading PoA, that when harry blew up his aunt that was magic (obviously) and he knew he'd broken the underage wizards magic law thingy. and he also broke her glass when he lost control. but that's wandless magic which is meant to be rare and powerful is it not?

i don't know if i dreamt anyone mentioning wandless magic or if it's been touched on in any of the books. i know that when they go through childhood/puberty they do things like neville bouncing when his uncle dropped him, and they do magic uncontrollably. was harry blowing up his aunt another instance of that is was it a sign of being a extrodinarily powerful wizard?

so basically has anybody got any thoughts on this, has wandless magic been mentioned or have i just made a very wrong assumption that only very powerful wizards can do magic without wands? and can anyone else recall any other incidents of harry showing his power like this? do all the things he did when he was young like suddenly being on the school roof, re-growing hair, shrinking jumper and disappearing glass, are these par for the course or an indication of just how powerful a wizard harry is?

any thoughts on this or am i being crazy and just leaping to conclusions?

[Heidi_hoho]

wandless magic has been mentioned. Harry used it in OotP. well, it was sorta wandless. he was able to make his wand do things when he wasn't holding it (lumos), but the ministry didn't say anything about it at all.

[thestral]

hmmm... but then then maybe it doesn't have that much significance cos the emphasis of harry's power is on the fact that his wand shares cores with voldie. maybe i'm reading into things too much and perhaps it just happens when wizards/witches lose control over their emotions?

[Nightcrawler]

My theory is that wizards and witches are capable of performing magic without wands, and that wands are a conducter for "magical energy". The magic itself comes from the wizard, but the wand (and the incantation) focus and refine the magic. I think that most times, if a spell is performed without a wand, it may be misdirected and difficult to controll. Emotions and hormones can make magic even less predictable, which is why Hogwarts would want to get any "potentials" as soon as they can.

[carsten]

My theory is that wizards and witches are capable of performing magic without wands, and that wands are a conducter for "magical energy". The magic itself comes from the wizard, but the wand (and the incantation) focus and refine the magic. I think that most times, if a spell is performed without a wand, it may be misdirected and difficult to controll. Emotions and hormones can make magic even less predictable, which is why Hogwarts would want to get any "potentials" as soon as they can.

Indeed, my thoughts on that go along the same line: I think wandless magic is possible, but a wand is need for directing it. Without wand, anything will or will not happen, but with a wand it is under control.

LV himself said that he was powerless without a wand. When he had lost his body, he couldn't perform the powerful spells necessary to regain power.

[thestral]

well wormtail could perform the animagus transformation without a wand and he isn't exactly a very powerful wizard. all the animagus transformations were without wands, so i guess i'm probably reading into things too much.

[carsten]

well wormtail could perform the animagus transformation without a wand and he isn't exactly a very powerful wizard. all the animagus transformations were without wands, so i guess i'm probably reading into things too much.

It is said that it is an extremely complex and dangerous spell. Being a wandless one will add to the problem. Wormtail would have never made it without help from the other marauders.

[Countess of Insanity]

wandless magic takes some hard core practicing. meant for only those strong enough, meaning wormtail has always been aided by someone. i think that wandless magic is kind of on the dark side too, so its a pretty risky practice for those on the. . .good side. . .light side. . .oh i don't know the name for it.

[Eol]

If it was just wands that made people magical we would have far more witches and wizards. As it is many of the kids performed magical feats without knowing how they did it. For example, when Neville's uncle dropped him out of the window and he bounced down the street. We've seen in the books many instances where Harry's done magic without a wand. As Nightcrawler and Carsten said before, wands just focus and amplify thier power.

[Nikki]

In movie 3 Lupin and Dumbledore did wandless magic, i wish i could......

[Tanuki]

Nikki, I know you are young and likely impressionable, but I feel I must say this. Should you ever mention the hellish attrocity that is movie 3 and it's complete and utter deviation from the story of Harry potter again, I will tear into you like a dog into a steak. That is all

[Augusta Longbottom]

Nikki, I know you are young and likely impressionable, but I feel I must say this. Should you ever mention the hellish attrocity that is movie 3 and it's complete and utter deviation from the story of Harry potter again, I will tear into you like a dog into a steak. That is all

bwahahahahahahahahahahhaaha!

OMG Tanuki, that is so funny! (even though I like the 3rd movie)


Now that you mention it Tanuki, I hope you don't mind if I pipe in here too with a blanket statement for all the newbies... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, when discussing the books in these forums, please don't base info on what you have seen in the movies. There is a sub-forum for the movies. When discussing the books, the movies are not pertinent because the movies are only based on the books and in some cases are not perfectly accurate to the books. When talking about something in the books, please stick to the details in the books. If you'd like to discuss the movies, kindly post it in the movie forum.

Comparing something in the books to something in the movies is like comparing apples to oranges.

[Nikki]

excuse me if i am acting my age but must u always be like Simon even though u r being true? That would be cool, look at what i wrote clearly : WOULD, ok?

And dont even write that u wouldnt want to do wandless magic, everyone would wanna do that, every1


[edited to combine two posts into one]