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[Deedra Malfoy]

have you ever thought about being an author?

very nice, and I could see it happening.

[Athena Appleton]

I don't know...

I could see it happening, but I just don't think that Wormtail is that much of a stand-up kind of guy... But I could be wrong, after all, there was something about him that made James, Sirius, Lupin and Lily to befriend him, so you could be right, I guess...

[Groo]

i think TDM's scenario is very much possible. i dont see him actively helping Harry in any way since he is a proper servant of LV. i dont think he will survive after helping Harry. taking a blow for Harry seems like the best way of repaying the debt

[TDM]

lol, Deedra, i am an author. not that anyone here knows because i don't write HP stuff. eh, that wasn't any good anyway. the only thing i agree with is what happens. i think Wormtail will sacrifice himself for Harry. it seems like the proper thing to do.

[Athena Appleton]

lol, Deedra, i am an author. not that anyone here knows because i don't write HP stuff. eh, that wasn't any good anyway. the only thing i agree with is what happens. i think Wormtail will sacrifice himself for Harry. it seems like the proper thing to do.

Yeah, but he's not a "proper" kind of guy...

ehhh, maybe there's enough decency deep down in his wormy little soul to do the right thing at the end...

[Eol]

I don't think that Wormtail has any sense of honour at all. At school he hung around with James, Sirius and Lupin because they were some of the most gifted students in the school and they could protect him. He gave James up to Voldy because he thought that Voldy would win the war in the end. The only way I see Wormtail helping Harry out voluntarily is if he believes that Harry is going to win out. My belief is that another kind of ancient magic is going to be invoked, like when Lily sacrificed herself for Harry, which will give Harry an advantage that Voldy did not anticipate, either because he did not know that Harry spared Wormtail's life. It could also be because Voldy overlooked this fact but I doubt he would make that kind of mistake again.

Slightly off topic but in one of JK's interviews she said that when you become an animagus, you cannot choose the animal. This says a lot about Peter's character by the fact that he turns into a rat.

Finally, I still think that Lupin is going to survive till the end, although for no other reason than I want him to. Peter will die at his hand and he will achieve justice for the memory of the Marauders. If Pettigrew survives and kills Lupin too, then he would have bested all of the Marauders, who were all braver, cleverer and more talented than himself, which sickens me to even think about.

[Alice I]

Finally, I still think that Lupin is going to survive till the end, although for no other reason than I want him to. Peter will die at his hand and he will achieve justice for the memory of the Marauders. If Pettigrew survives and kills Lupin too, then he would have bested all of the Marauders, who were all braver, cleverer and more talented than himself, which sickens me to even think about.

Kudos Eol for putting into words my sentiments about the whole marauder business.

Wormtail cannot win in the end it would be wrong and it would show that evil wins over good
Not a message that JKR would want to send out (at least I don't think she would)

[carsten]

Oh yeah, I do have a question... if you believe this is a magical bond, are you saying the person has to actually save the person, they have to try, and to what degree do they have to try? Would Wormtail be fulfilling his obligation by simply suggesting once that Voldemort not kill Harry, but then backing off, or is it like Snape, who kind of continued to do stuff until he was actually able to save Harry's life (to fulfill his debt to James)?

Actually I have a little different idea of what a magical bond is. You don't have to do anything to fulfill yout duty, but life puts you into circumstances, which don't allow any other choice but paying the price for your deeds. Call it fate or call it karma, but I think Wormtail will have to suffer for Harry's good. So it is not a matter of Wormtail trying to do something: He must do it, no way out, like in the old greek tragedies.

Carsten

[Athena Appleton]

Oh, okay... well, I still don't really agree with you (as in, I think Wormy Wormtail will put forth a little half-hearted effort, give in out of fear, and be killed anyway) but your way is a lot more plausible (is that spelled right???) than the way I thought you were talking about...

*shrug*

[Deedra Malfoy]

Yes, Athena, finally something I can full-heartedly agree with. There might be an attempt, but completely backfire on Wormy's part.

[Mistress Siana]

I don't think it's question of honour or decency in the first place. What if, due to his life-debt, Pettigrew is no longer able to do something that could harm Harry? Like...well, he performs a spell but it remains useless?

About the original question: Lupin's death would be very much like Sirius's. Another Marauder, another friend of James's...I think DD would be much more likely.

[Athena Appleton]

I don't think it's question of honour or decency in the first place. What if, due to his life-debt, Pettigrew is no longer able to do something that could harm Harry? Like...well, he performs a spell but it remains useless?

Yeah, but this doesn't really fit with what Snape did in P/SS, as far as I can tell. In that circumstance, Snape had to, either by a magically forced bond or because of his own sense of feeling like he owed it to James, save Harry's life.

I don't think you're fulfilling any kind of debt by just not doing anything mean. I think there actually has to be some good act to fulfill your part of it.

[Mistress Siana]

well, the one thing doesn't exclude the other. I just said that maybe a wizard is not able to kill someone he owns his own life, as a part of the debt, there can very well be more to it.

[Reverie Revenge]

I don't think that Wormtail has any sense of honour at all. At school he hung around with James, Sirius and Lupin because they were some of the most gifted students in the school and they could protect him. He gave James up to Voldy because he thought that Voldy would win the war in the end. The only way I see Wormtail helping Harry out voluntarily is if he believes that Harry is going to win out.

All this pretty matches Wormtail character but I think here rats are stereotyped. I'm repeating myself but rats are also intelligent, comminucative, capable and resistent animals. But of course, are better!

As for magical bond: I think there's more than honour. DD mentioned a wizard saving other wizard's life - no muggles here!
And Lily's sacrifice also created a magical bond!

[DragonFiend17]

NO -_-